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Caring attitude defeats sense of despair Part II of Interim interview with sister of Kevorkian victim
Karen was born and raised near Guelph, Ontario. Her family, who still reside there, were devastated by her suicide, and called on authorities to lay murder charges against Kevorkian. Karen's sister, Tina Allerellie, recently spoke with The Interim's David Curtin about Karen's death, and about the issues of euthanasia and doctor-assisted suicide. David: You said that you wish Karen could have talked to someone who could have helped her properly. I wonder if sometimes the responses people give are too mixed up in, well, "It's your choice; you're the one to decide", the independence, and all the individualism that's out there in the culture. I wonder if we need to be saying, "No, absolutely not, don't do that, that's wrong. You're precious and there's another way." I wonder if we're all so caught up in "choice," we forget that the whole point of being free is to choose good things. Tina: Exactly. That
is exactly what I'm thinking. Before all this happened, I was really standing
on the sidelines myself. I never, ever agreed with euthanasia or mercy-killing;
but at the same time, I thought it doesn't affect me and if other people
want to do it, that's their choice.
I'm realizing now that we
need to have the courage to stand up and say, "No, it is wrong." If people
want to say that I don't understand, that's their problem, because I think
I understand more than the average person out there. I get into debates
with people a lot at work now, who say, "You don't know what it's like
to be in a wheelchair; you don't know what it's like to suffer."
No, I don't, and that's true.
But I do know what it's like to lose someone you love unnecessarily. And
I do know - I'm learning - what it's like to always stand back on the sidelines.
That doesn't make anything good come about. All that happens that way is
the world decays.
I can't help but think that
when Canada was formed, it was formed on the basis of freedom. But I think
freedom back then was a lot different than what we see freedom as being
today. To me, freedom means responsibility. It doesn't mean to just say,
"I'm not getting things done my way, so I'm checking out."
That's not right, and that's
not what being Canadian is about. That's not what it means to be a true,
valuable life. We're here for what we can give, not for what we can get.
And it's time people started hearing that again, I believe.
David: People in favor
of euthanasia and doctor-assisted suicide talk about it being a personal
thing or an individual choice; but what I'm hearing from you is it could
never be simply a personal choice, because it affects people around you
inevitably. It's affected you and your family and Karen's friends. It can't
possibly be just a private thing.
Tina: It's not. I
have the freedom to choose what kind of car I want to drive; that's my
choice, I'm driving it. But I have no right to say, "I'm out of here,"
because my life affects other people's lives.
My mother's life affects
mine. If she were to die, again I would be devastated. My life would not
be the same. With my sister dying, my life will never be the same. A part
of me has died with her. So, as you said, it's not a personal choice, because
it affects everyone.
The debate that has come
up in Guelph over it, it's not right. To say it's the humane thing to do
- no, it's not. It is not the humane thing to do. We are human beings and
God, He's the one in charge of us, and He loves us more than any human
being could. He knows what He's doing. We don't. We have no right to play
God.
Maybe if people would stop
standing back and saying they have a right to kill themselves if they feel
that their life is no longer worth living, maybe that's an easy scapegoat
for them so that they don't have to get up and help themselves. Because
everybody is so comfortable in their own little world. We need to reach
out to people and say to others - to our neighbors - thank you just for
being here, instead of saying, "Hey, you're on your own." We need each
other.
David: In some cases where
someone is considering suicide, the people supporting them in that direction
may be doing it out of some misguided sense of compassion. Others might
not have even that. There might be a little inheritance they're looking
at. How can we ever safeguard against that? How do we know what's in someone's
heart? We can't judge what is motivating them to support somebody who is
despairing and aiming at suicide.
Tina: Even with the
misguided sense of compassion, this politically-correct thing is driving
me nuts. Even with my sister talking about Kervorkian, I think the average
person said, well, "It's your choice," because they didn't want to say
to her, "How dare you; how can you even think of that?" They were afraid
of offending her. Well, maybe that's exactly what she needed to hear.
When I was younger and felt
that my life wasn't worth living, I certainly didn't need anyone to say
"that's your decision." What I needed to know was that I was loved and
that I was worth something, that my disappearance from the earth would
hurt another person. I needed to hear that. I didn't need to hear, "Whatever
you want." That would just confirm my own worst fear that I'm not loved.
I think that's what happened
to my sister. Most anyone else who considers suicide or assisted-suicide
- it isn't the physical problems that they're having so much as the emotional
pain that they're going through. You can deal with anything that you're
faced with, but one thing you can't seem to deal with is the pain and loneliness
that you feel in your heart. That's what people can't tolerate, and that's
what they want to get away from. The way to combat that is not by saying
suicide is okay. The way to combat that is to say, "I love you, please
don't do that." And maybe that will give them the strength to face another
day.
David: Do you think some
people are thinking that caring for people who need long-term care is expensive,
and we're trying to cut back and balance the budget? Is this part of it
do you think for some people?
Tina: I think the
money issue is a very large issue. To that I say my sister made an awful
lot of money by the time she died. What good was it? She had everything
she ever dreamed of when she died. For what? Who cares about money? Yes,
we do need money to survive. That unfortunately is a fact. But you cannot
put a dollar value on human life. And if you think you can, well then put
it on your own life, don't put it on mine.
We are a country that should
be bonded together to help one another, not to say you don't make financial
sense to keep alive. That's not a proper country. That's not what it means
to be a community. That's not a proper community to say that, and to do
that to your neighbor.
David: If there is that
attitude out there - that people with special needs are too costly - are
those people going to be feeling pressured, as if not only are they a burden
to their families, but they're costing society as well, just by being?
Is that a factor, do you think, for people considering suicide? Would it
have been a factor for Karen?
Tina: One thing my
sister was really worried about was ending up in a convalescent home. Unfortunately,
the burden factor is there; but it's a lie. It's just as much a lie as
believing that two and two equals five. If anyone is considered a burden
to society, then maybe it's time society stops and takes a look at our
own attitudes.
In Kitchener, they have this
place called Camp Quality for young cancer patients. Are those kids a burden?
I don't think so. And to ever insinuate that they are - we need to slap
ourselves silly for thinking that.
David: Often today, people
are coming forward and saying we've got to legalize doctor-assisted suicide,
and regulate it in different ways. What would you like to say to ordinary
Canadians? What would you like them to think about when these people are
calling for doctor-assisted suicide in this country?
Tina: I'd like them
to realize that it's easy to sit back and to look at other people, like
I'm sure North America is looking at my sister. You didn't know her, and
it's so easy to be hypothetical when you don't know the person. Make it
personal. Say to yourself, "What if it happened to me? What if it was my
sister or my brother, or my mom or my dad, or even myself? How would that
affect me?"
I'm telling you, it destroys
you inside, because we're losing what true human life means. We're losing
it, and we just look at life as being kind of like a video game - one's
gone, well, we'll get another one.
No, you're not just a life
that can be replaced. You are a person. My sister is not just Number 51
on Kervorkian's list. My sister was Karen Margarethe Allerellie Shoffstall,
and she will never be again. Don't let that happen to other people, because
you're not just a life, you are special, and you've got to hang on to that.
David: Some of our Canadian
political leaders are really pushing for a change in Canadian law to allow
doctor-assisted suicide. They talk about people's rights to "die with dignity,"
and these sorts of things. Do you have anything to say to our political
leaders in their decision-making on this issue?
Tina: Well, I'd like
to know exactly what their version of dying with dignity is. For me to
die with dignity would be when I'm on my death-bed and I'm about to be
called home and I'm surrounded by my loved ones and through it all I can
still be there and say, "I love you. I may be suffering, but I love you."
That to me is a lot more dignified than to go to a hotel room and be injected
with a lethal dose of some poison, and to become part of the media circus.
Where is the dignity in that?
And also suicide - you're
giving up. You're saying, "I just can't take it. I give up. I quit. I've
failed." Where is the dignity in that? It isn't there; and I can't help
but think that our forefathers who founded this country would be turning
over in their graves right now if they saw the way the government was going,
being so lax about everything.
We should be a strong nation
- a nation that stands up and helps one another, and not a nation that
says "Kill yourselves, it saves us money." That's not right.
David: Where to now, for
you, in trying to get on with things and understand this?
Tina: Before this
happened, my biggest goal in life was to own a GMC Yukon - I love that
truck, I still would like to have one - and make enough money to just survive.
I don't care about any of that anymore (except maybe the truck, I still
want it). Now my goal in life is to make sure that everybody that I know
knows they are loved and that they're never alone - to give more of myself
to other people, and not be so content in my little comfort-zone as to
turn away another person.
So, now I really don't look
too much at what's outward. For me anymore it's all what's in the heart;
and if I can achieve that, then I'm a true success. That's what I want
to go for.
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